LOL!!!!!!!!
You are right about the liner. The liner on me is pretty snug. The shorts are fine in the legs, and a little loose in the waist. So I am assuming that the liner will kill his little buddies, and the shorts may be snug on him. I got him a jersey as well, he is getting into bikes, been spinning a lot recently with his wife in the gym. And I want to get him out on the trails this year. Figured a jersey and padded shorts would be an excellent gift. I just ordered two Camelbak Scorpions through Pricepoint, he was going to give me the cash for his 1/2, so maybe that'll be his B-Day gift instead. We'll see!